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Oct'11 - Please direct ALL Wiki queries to JanetH (Admin) "Talk" page for the foreseeable future - thanks. Lighthouse 14:44, 4 October 2011 (BST)

Open for discussion! Note my time: GMT +2Hrs

Ask away! Any suggestions? Lighthouse 10:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Still can't get that Google Map to work, if I do then it creates code problems for the rest of the page.

Preview mode does not show up these code problems. Will have another go tomorrow.


I'll put it in for you and then you can see from the code how I've done it. Lighthouse 16:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Communication pages

I need to get moving on a few other tasks, today, before shoving off. I've made a few changes to the communications portion of the wiki. I'm hoping others can come in behind me and add their country-specific information. I'm also trying to add links to other pages to tie everything together. Hopefully I'll be able to get a few extra cycles to keep contributing. Fair winds! --Sparks 15:47, 18 February 2011 (GMT)

Great stuff! Lighthouse 16:38, 18 February 2011 (GMT)

Navbar links

I've followed your instructions (I think!) for the new Teos Marina page, which should now link to the Sigacik Region page that Istioploos created. If I've still not got the hang of it, let me know. I'm off shortly to the Sea of Marmara to update that section, so I'd hate to be still getting it wrong. --Athene of Lymington 17:40, 5 May 2011 (BST)

Perfect. It is just when you make new pages that the navbar (bottom of page) is unfinished in the template and needs the links to be inserted. Well done on all your work. Lighthouse 19:15, 5 May 2011 (BST)

New Users

Just approved my first user. Two more pending, awaiting confirmation. --Haiqu 02:13, 2 June 2011 (BST)

Good! Lighthouse 07:59, 2 June 2011 (BST)


I'm finding the chartlet useless outside US mainland. Entered the co-ords for Melbourne and got all of Tasmania & Victoria and half of NSW at full zoom! --Haiqu 07:20, 3 June 2011 (BST)

True. It does however work for a number of regions outside the US as well - depending on how countries allow the use/publication of their marine charts. There seems to be no alternative though. Lighthouse 07:45, 3 June 2011 (BST)
Might use a link to Google maps instead for down here, although I already have that on the Australian state pages anyhow. Finding good pics without copyright is tricky. I do like Panoramio! --Haiqu 23:31, 3 June 2011 (BST)

Progress report

Huge day yesterday. I went to Special and looked at all the missing pics and links and double redirects and decided to fix them, so I did the lot. There now appears to be no country, region or major island group without a basic page with the latest template, flag and map at least. Also included a little joke for you, see if you can find it. Today I'm thinking of taking it easy, this is becoming an obsession. :-) --Haiqu 23:31, 3 June 2011 (BST)

OK, I lied. Just added all the Chinese coastal provinces, with maps. --Haiqu 06:36, 4 June 2011 (BST)

I cannot believe how much effort you have put in - fantastic to see. I will look for the joke - will be hard to find in hundreds of pages though. Lighthouse 09:49, 4 June 2011 (BST)
The joke on the New Zealand page? Lighthouse 18:42, 4 June 2011 (BST)
Nope. You'll know it when you see it. --Haiqu 08:52, 5 June 2011 (BST)
A hint? Lighthouse 09:16, 5 June 2011 (BST)
You're having me on! With all the Brisbane islands you filled in last night you must have seen it. --Haiqu 05:02, 6 June 2011 (BST)
You mean the "Fix me now" pic? (I thought that was great when I first saw it BTW) Lighthouse 08:20, 6 June 2011 (BST)
I like the eggs too. Lighthouse 14:25, 6 June 2011 (BST)
Ah, you found it! :-) --Haiqu 09:19, 12 June 2011 (BST)

Wanted Pages

In the last few days I've cut the Wanted Pages section down from 1,370 to less than 250. Pretty pleased with myself actually. I also wrote a quick "style guide" for editors and plonked it on the Homepage. --Haiqu 09:18, 12 June 2011 (BST)

Jeez Rob, I cannot believe how much (much needed) work that you have ploughed through in short time. Well done Mate! Lighthouse 09:41, 12 June 2011 (BST)
Meh, I don't have a life. I'll get one when I finally buy a yacht. --Haiqu 12:04, 18 June 2011 (BST)
And so I did <grin>. Hope you're well Bob, I just updated the Sydney page while I have a rare continuous internet access. I'm at my brother's place in Ipswich (just out of Brisbane) and heading north for work. --Haiqu 3:23, 13 June 2012 (AEST)

Radio Nets in ZA

Seems as if Fred Meyer and Alistair Campbell both went SK recently, and VK6BO Roy in Perth is holding the ball for now. He's an old bloke, maybe someone needs to step up and fill the gap over there - just saying. Could be a fun job for a retired sailor. HiHi. --Haiqu 12:02, 18 June 2011 (BST)

Rob, I do have a radio but I am just about as old as they are/were and not interested in tying myself up again. I'm trying to retire gracefully now and spend my time on other (less demanding) interests. LOL! Lighthouse 14:32, 18 June 2011 (BST)


Hi Bob

I'm afraid someone has really screwed up the Venice section, which I spent over two weeks creating. The table of marinas and ports in the Venice lagoon has been moved to a new section headed 'The Venetian Lagoon', which seems totally unnecessary, but in doing so all the links have been removed, so that you can't now access from the Venice OR the new 'Venetian Lagoon' page any of the details of the marinas or ports. Obviously, this renders the whole section useless.

Could I ask you to investigate and, if possible, restore the old page? We're returning from Athene of Lymington to the UK tomorrow, so I can do some further work on the section if necessary. We're also planning to cruise the Adriatic coast next year as far as Venice, so I hope to update it properly then.



Hi Gordon. I moved the table to the "Venetian Lagoon" page because the Venice page may get too large - Wiki warning: Warning: This page is 46 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections. I have copied the table back to the Venice page but have left the "Venetian Lagoon" page as is for now as well as all the links to the "Lagoon" page on the "Venice" section until you can get back to considering the options. I love the table you made. I could not find the "links" for marinas and ports you mention in the page's "history". Great contributions Gordon! Lighthouse 11:05, 12 July 2011 (BST)

Sorry - I'd have been a bit less trenchant had I known you had done it and with the best of intentions. I'll look at breaking up the section when I get home, probably into Venice Central and Venice Lagoon (albeit for most cruisers it's an artificial distinction). The important thing is that cruisers browsing the Wiki realise that there's detailed information on all the ports and marinas in the area of Venice, which they wouldn't at the moment as there are no links to them. --Athene of Lymington 15:59, 12 July 2011 (BST)

Hi Bob

Right. I've sorted out the Venice and Venetian Lagoon section; the latter is still quite long, but I can't see any sensible way of shortening it further - unless you have a suggestion? You'll see if you click on the Venetian Lagoon sections in the table that there's already a separate page for each and then another for each individual harbour/marina. The whole thing hangs together quite nicely now that all the links work and you'll see why it took two weeks!

Best wishes.

GORDON --Athene of Lymington 12:01, 16 July 2011 (BST)

Great Gordon. Lighthouse 19:00, 16 July 2011 (BST)


Hi Bob

This Wiki is a seriously good idea and I'm having fun messing around in a small corner of it. It strikes me that the biggest thing that is needed is lots more people contributing. There is certainly enough material in place to demonstrate that this is a serious effort and worth getting involved in. I was planning to write to a few of the sailing magazines here in Oz, but don't want to work at cross purposes to anyone else who might be thinking of similar things. Any thoughts on a publicity campaign aimed at improving the number of people involved.


Peter Pedro

Hi Peter. Any efforts of promotion would be great so please go ahead. There is a general promotion planned for the near future as well. Great contributions from you by the way. Lighthouse 08:17, 15 July 2011 (BST)


Sent off notes to a couple of the Aussie magazines. Hopefully something will come of that.

A further thought on the publicity thing. Since the Wiki is web based (obviously), it might be useful to use some of the social networks for publicity purposes. One of the easiest ways to do this would be to put a Facebook "Like" button on each page. Near as I can tell, this is pretty easy to do. One line of HTML seems to be all that is required - details are at:

This would put one of those little blue buttons on the page and a reader only has to click the button to put a link to the Wiki page onto their Facebook page for all their "Friends" to see. Pretty crass stuff, but it seems to work. Obviously, you can do the same thing with some of the other social networks.



Good. I will look into it. Cheers. Lighthouse 12:50, 17 August 2011 (BST)

Small Problem

Bob, there was a stuff up with the marina template that I have now made worse. A user entered some details of Kermandie Marina and saved it. I eventually noticed this ( we are planning a trip to Port Huon tomorrow ) and tried to fix it by moving the page to Kermandie Marina and linking it to the Port Huon page. That bit worked, but now there is no Marina Template and the links to that template go to Kermandie Marina. I can't see any obvious way to fix this, so I assume its something beyond my level of access. Pedro

No problem Peter. Please check that all is OK now. Lighthouse 21:20, 22 July 2011 (BST)

Thanks Bob Pedro

Screenshots of Charts

Hi Bob. Any thoughts on the legality of using screenshots of Cmap charts to display anchorages? I've got tracks of all our recent trips and so can see exactly where we anchored and it is easy to drop an anchor symbol onto the chart in the appropriate place and screenshot it for the Wiki. I'm just not sure if it would then breach someones copyright and cause problems. Pedro

Hi, definitely a copyright issue I think. What has been done successfully (mostly in the Greece section) is screenshots of GoogleMaps (or GoogleEarth), with anchor symbols and/or tracks dropped in, ENSURING that the image is saved as a .png image thereby preserving the Googlemap (or Google Earth) logo in the uploaded screenshot. Or, do a screenshot of the GoogleMap logo and add it (layer it) in the corner of the Google image. Lighthouse 09:32, 28 July 2011 (BST)

Ah, life wasn't meant to be easy. There is a Google map thing that allows you to put custom markers on the Google maps. There is a competing Wiki using it and you can see it at

Would this work here do you think? - Good ideas are meant to be borrowed!

I know this app - needs our "techie" to build it into our wiki software base. I did look into it in the past but was difficult (for me) to make SMALLER icons work - I did set up some smaller (alternative) icons on the Wiki's "Icons" page - . I will see if the Techie will set it up. Lighthouse 18:07, 3 August 2011 (BST)

Thanks Bob. I think it would be worth exploring. I wouldn't like to see people start to use GoogleEarth for navigation, but its a lot easier to show where an anchorage is than to describe it.

Hi guys. Congratulations on CruisersWiki. This is a great initiative which I hope I can contribute to (having been encouraged by Gordon of Athene of Lymington when we met in the Dardanelles). I have recently put a lot of information about Volos into the Pagasitikos Gulf page. I had wanted to put in a map of the town showing the location of the various services but the only option I could see was a screenshot of Google Earth, and it would have been too cluttered. I ended up with a lot of links to positions which don't allow the user to get a feel for their location in until they have opened the link - a rather time consuming place if you are trying to find the closest supermarket for example. Maybe I have gone overboard on these links (tell me if you think I have overdone it) - if not then having something like a Google Maps with multiple placemarks would be good. Can you suggest  a better way to do this sort of thing with the current resources on CruisersWiki? Thanks very much. Bill Yachtbillabong 31 August 2011

Great work you are doing Bill. A suggestion: Perhaps better to do a link like the following - Map (zoom in). Just a thought - it at least takes the reader directly to a GoogleMap and not to the Geo page where he still has to select an option. Lighthouse 07:52, 31 August 2011 (BST)

Page templates

Hi Bob. Thanks for inserting the Panoramio and chartlet links on my recent new pages. I'll try to learn how to do this myself as I create new pages. If there's any tweaking planned to the software, it would be great to see this inserted automatically once one inserted the co-ordinates; also on the marina template it would be great if you didn't have to insert the telephone number, e-mail address and website twice. Apart from that, a Ferrari F40, a Nobel Prize for Literature and a date with Claudia Schiffer and I'll be perfectly happy ... GORDON

Cheers! Lighthouse 21:36, 31 July 2011 (BST)

Hi Bob. I've finished the mainland coast of Croatia and am shortly off to take Athene of Lymington from Kusadasi in Turkey across to the Ionian. I'll start on the islands of Croatia when I return in October. In the meantime, I've uploaded Cres Island as an example of the (slightly adapted) template I propose to use for the rest of the islands. Please let me have any comments/suggestions if you have them before I start on the remaining islands. All the best.


All looks great Gordon. You have been doing fantastic work on the Wiki - well done! Lighthouse 20:50, 16 August 2011 (BST)

Photos templates

Aloha, I added one photo for testing(File:2008 05 11 Tallinnamadala tuletorn ja Tallink Star.jpg), where is this template: {{Creative Commons license}}, it is note here:Template:Creative Commons license/Creative Commons License/. I'm thinking, once the GFDL license is added to uploaded photo/file, it should "automatically" fall onto [[Category:GFDL_images]]. best Suwa 10:13, 4 October 2011 (BST)

Hi. please direct queries to JanetH - thanks. Lighthouse 14:33, 4 October 2011 (BST)
ok, clear :) Suwa 18:23, 4 October 2011 (BST)

Wiki Upgrade


I send the following msg to Andy:

Dear Andy,

We three together with Delatbabel seem to the most active administrators of the Cruisers Wiki. Several months ago, Vasilis asked for an update to the Wiki’s MediaWiki engine because we were running a very old version. For several reasons this did not happen. We think that it is vital that the Wiki gets upgraded.

Currently none of the active administrators seems to have the access needed to install the upgrades or new extensions and remove the old ones after an update. We think that this, the most active administrator group, should be given the relevant credentials for SSH/FTP access to the host running the Wiki.

Among us Vasilis has over 40 years’ professional software development experience and Vadim has by far the deepest knowledge of MediaWiki administration.


Gordon Knight, Vadim Shlyakvok, Vasilis Riginos --Istioploos 19:13, 18 February 2016 (GMT)

Discussion about the Wiki


For your info you may want to take a look at the on going The Discussion about the future CruisersWiki. --Istioploos 22:12, 29 February 2016 (GMT) (Vasilis)

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