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Welcome to CruiserlogWiki! We hope you will contribute much and well. You will probably want to read the help pages. Again, welcome and have fun! Lighthouse 22:58, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

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Italy Contributions

Great work on the Italy section Gordon.

Please check coords for Marina del Fezzano

Lighthouse 20:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Porto Turistico di Roma (Ostia)‎‎

New page "Porto Turistico di Roma (Ostia)"‎‎ - where does this link back to (in navbar)? I can find "Porto Turistico di Roma" on the "Fiumara Grande" - without "(Ostia)". Or, must the links on the "Fiumara Grande" page be changed to include "(Ostia)"? Lighthouse 07:41, 9 December 2010 (UTC)‎‎

Policastro, Italy

http://www.cruiserswiki.org/wiki/Policastro

Please check the coords.

Taranto

http://www.cruiserswiki.org/wiki/Taranto

Please check coords.

New pages

Hi Gordon. Please check the "Navbar" links at the bottom of NEW pages. Copy the navbar code from the "mother" page and add the new page link at the end of the navbar. Otherwise, the NEW page just sort of floats in space, LOL. Lighthouse 09:21, 5 May 2011 (BST)

Marmara Islands

Hi Gordon. I can see why you changed several port titles on this page. Your changes did add clarity but they played havoc in the links within the page and from other pages. Please if you make title pages in the future investigate all the pages that link to that title and change them as well. I know that this is a lot of work.

Happy New Year Istioploos 11:40, 30 December 2011 (EST)

External Links

Gordon a vandal made a massive edit changing "External Links" as it has always been and is in out templates to "External links" which may cause some broken links. I am reverting the damage. Please do keep an I also. Istioploos

Dugi Otok

Happy New Year Gordon. Great work in Croatia but here you cannot have headers that include a number. Headers are linkable items. No one will link to something "3. U. Krusevica" but may link om "U. Krusevica".

On non-linkable items (non headers) it does not matter. The reason, however, for using headers for anchorages etc. is because they are linkable. This allows for future expansion.

Croatia

Gordon, you are doing a fantastic job on Croatia. If only we had few more wiki contributors like you…

I have been for years trying to convince other cruisers that sharing their experiences is a way of helping each other of the cruising community. I kept notes, first in an old fashioned notebook, and then on the laptop of all the harbors and anchorages that I had visited. Later I put these on DVDs and gave them away with the hope that other people would add their own observations. Very few did so. Then along came Bob (Lighthouse) with his wiki. He convinced to add my notes there.

It was a monumental task that took over a year. Along the way I made many mistakes but Bob gently guided me. By that time his wife, who wrote about their cruising, was very sick and they had stopped cruising. Bob kept on researching places, created new pages, and added some material to the wiki. Then his wife passed away and slowly he phased out. I kept hopping that others will step in and fill his big shoes. I also hoped that more active cruisers, like you, will become more active. Now we do have some, many thanks to you and your encouragement.

It is good to keep up with new wiki additions and to edit each other's contributions as to form (looks and feel) and usability. Maybe my long software development background makes me over sensitive to these issues. But I mostly consider these as minor improvements. Adding new content, as you do, is the most important.

Please keep going.

Vasilis

January 3 edits in Croatia

Gordon

In many of your edits on January 3, 2013 there is a type. The "N" on the coord. is missing i.e. in Dubrovnik there is 42°38.5′18, 07.8°E′ instead of 42°38.5′N, 18°07.8′E.

I have corrected many of these but it would be good if you take another look in case I have overlooked some.

Vasilis

Preveza

Gordon,

I think that Preveza is a model Port page. I made some minor changes to 1. improve the layout (I was getting some print over the first picture) and 2. changed the depth of some headers to conform with the latest template. Please take a look. If we like it then we can use this page a s a model/template.

I really like the new section "Useful Contacts". Bravo!

Vasilis

Tables

Gordon,

This is indeed a problem. In software as in engineering in general everything is a trade-of and a compromise. In the wiki we have 2 tables: TOC and the Info table. I take it you are referring tot he TOC.

The TOC is very useful for 2 reasons:

  1. For the user who wants to look up a specific say port or anchorage. Instead of of scanning the whole page he/she just clicks on the TOC.
  2. The other is either a wiki editor or a user who wants to refer to particular entry in another wiki page or in another website. That is he/she wants a link.

The Wikimedia engine , in an effort to address the real-estate problem allows us to turn off/on the the display of the TOC. This done at the individual user's preferences. Lighthouse experimented by having the TOC off by default but I finally talked in restoring the default to on. At that time we came up with the {{TOCleft}} compromise that allows us to at least have some control where the TOC is displayed in a page. My personal opinion is that the benefits outweigh the penalty.

The other table, the Info table does get bigger and occupies more real estate when we include pictures and/or maps. From an esthetic point I think ti does look better if we do include at least one these in the Info table rather then having then as an "image" further down. As you have seen if we use 350px within the table and 345px for the rest of the images they line up to the right very nicely.

The other problem I have is with the on-line Google maps. I, as I have said to you before object to them for 2 reasons:

  1. Many users, maybe now less then before, do not have Internet access while cruising and store static static versions of wiki pages on their computer to be viewed off-line. But, these do not show the on-line Google maps at exactly when a map of a place is the most useful to the cruiser.
  2. In my computer at least (Mac) that allows window scrolling form the mouse these have an interface problem. If while scrolling through a wiki page the mouse cursor happens to be on the map instead of scrolling the page the map gets scrolled and it is no longer showing the intended location on the map but it shows something far-far away. To get back one has to reload the page. Please try and see if this or anything like it happens with your computer.

Have a nice weekend Vasilis

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